New HP pricing policy? (Inkjet Refilling Talk)

New HP pricing policy?
Author: Murphy	December 31, 2003 at 12:00:27
in reply to: Re: New HP pricing policy?* posted by Yianni on December 31, 2003 at 01:16:15*

Dear Yanni, I think that with this pricing policy HP will
invade the market and there's a good opportunity for Us:
Yes, if the empties price will be cheapest in the future
(about 1,5 or 2$) we we'll make much more cartridges than
now, the high volume will be a good substitute of the high
pricing, but who sells empties must understand that the old
high price on HP cartridges is out, a question wich I again
can't answer is this: How it is possible that at the actual
empties pricing (about $ 6,00) there's a so big asking??
Are other professional recharger in the market with these
prices? Are empties sellers really selling cartridges or
are they waiting for chickens???

> You are right. Of course in future the empties would cost
> less (if there isn't much demand), but what about if the
> empties cost $2$? Will it worth?.
>
> HP follows an "aggressive" policy, more aggressive than
> needed. From one end of the easy 45/15/29/78 cartrdiges, to
> the other end with much difficult new ones. Historical
> events shows that in a wide period of time, every person or
> company or market that follows an aggressive policy looses
> more than it/he/she gains. On the other hand OEM companies
> need (and must) protect their business. To say the truth,
> the past was much easy. But companies should give "space"
> to others too. BTW, I've noticed there is a "channel" in
> Europe with cheap HP inks, besides the normal channel with
> normal prices. Does anybody knows how/why this happen? Is
> this a worldwide fact?
>
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> > all you know the new high quality HP cartridges (HP c6656,
> > c6657 and HP 27 and 28), them are easy to remanufacture,
> > but them are the sign of a new strategy introduced on the
> > market by HP: the low cost of the OEM! In Europe you can
> > find a OEM C6656A in the supermarket at about 22,00 euro,
> > lowest that a OEM Epson! What wants to do HP with this
> > pricing?? They wish to take all the market (low price
> > printers and low price cartridges) owned by Epson? They
> > wish to put Us out of the market?? (If an OEM costs 22
> > euros, a remanufactured will costs at least 13 euros, if
> > you go to buy empties, you can see that a virgin Hp c6656A
> > is rated 6 dollars, you can simply realize that there
> > aren't business spaces for your resellers), a my reseller
> > sayd to me that he has started to buy OEM HP c6656A to
> > 13,50 euros each one from HP, if I want to sell my
> > remanufactured HP C6656A I MUST sell them to 6,00 euro to
> > my reseller, but how can I do if I buy the empty to 6
> > dollars?? It's true that with this HP policy (low and
> > competitive cost on printers and consumables) there will be
> > an invasion of these new cartridges, maybe the empty market
> > can adjust the empty price? Now, with this pricing on the
> > empties I can say that we're out of market!

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> Dear Yanni, I think that with this pricing policy HP will > invade the market and there's a good opportunity for Us: > Yes, if the empties price will be cheapest in the future > (about 1,5 or 2$) we we'll make much more cartridges than > now, the high volume will be a good substitute of the high > pricing, but who sells empties must understand that the old > high price on HP cartridges is out, a question wich I again > can't answer is this: How it is possible that at the actual > empties pricing (about $ 6,00) there's a so big asking?? > Are other professional recharger in the market with these > prices? Are empties sellers really selling cartridges or > are they waiting for chickens??? > > > You are right. Of course in future the empties would cost > > less (if there isn't much demand), but what about if the > > empties cost $2$? Will it worth?. > > > > HP follows an "aggressive" policy, more aggressive than > > needed. From one end of the easy 45/15/29/78 cartrdiges, to > > the other end with much difficult new ones. Historical > > events shows that in a wide period of time, every person or > > company or market that follows an aggressive policy looses > > more than it/he/she gains. On the other hand OEM companies > > need (and must) protect their business. To say the truth, > > the past was much easy. But companies should give "space" > > to others too. BTW, I've noticed there is a "channel" in > > Europe with cheap HP inks, besides the normal channel with > > normal prices. Does anybody knows how/why this happen? Is > > this a worldwide fact? > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > > > all you know the new high quality HP cartridges (HP c6656, > > > c6657 and HP 27 and 28), them are easy to remanufacture, > > > but them are the sign of a new strategy introduced on the > > > market by HP: the low cost of the OEM! In Europe you can > > > find a OEM C6656A in the supermarket at about 22,00 euro, > > > lowest that a OEM Epson! What wants to do HP with this > > > pricing?? They wish to take all the market (low price > > > printers and low price cartridges) owned by Epson? They > > > wish to put Us out of the market?? (If an OEM costs 22 > > > euros, a remanufactured will costs at least 13 euros, if > > > you go to buy empties, you can see that a virgin Hp c6656A > > > is rated 6 dollars, you can simply realize that there > > > aren't business spaces for your resellers), a my reseller > > > sayd to me that he has started to buy OEM HP c6656A to > > > 13,50 euros each one from HP, if I want to sell my > > > remanufactured HP C6656A I MUST sell them to 6,00 euro to > > > my reseller, but how can I do if I buy the empty to 6 > > > dollars?? It's true that with this HP policy (low and > > > competitive cost on printers and consumables) there will be > > > an invasion of these new cartridges, maybe the empty market > > > can adjust the empty price? Now, with this pricing on the > > > empties I can say that we're out of market!
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